True Line Models RY Pickering Traders Wagon

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tony brenchley
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True Line Models RY Pickering Traders Wagon

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As promised in my post introducing True Line Models this post contains the information on the RY Pickering wagon. This was originally posted on the Forum in the Modelling Resources section under the topic heading 'Pickering Traders Wagon in 4mm'. Subsequently Dave John gave us a link to photos of his completed wagons in the Modellers Q&A section topic heading 'Pickering Traders wagons'.

The wagon we chose for the project was a 10-ton wagon built for Wilsons and Clyde. This is as near a typical RYP product as we could get and one for which we had a GA drawing. We deliberately chose a wagon with cupboard doors making it suitable to portray as a coal merchant or colliery-owned vehicle.

David Blevins kindly provided details of the Wilsons and Clyde orders from the RYP order books as follows:

"The 10 Ton Wagon started to appear in the Order Books from 1898. Wilsons & Clyde changed to a higher capacity 12 Ton Wagon in October, 1902.
Here is a list from the Order Book (dates being when Order placed):-
25/04/1898 50 Built, 10 Tons, Numbered 2143 & Upwards to be lettered “Law Colliery”
01/06/1900 100 Built, 10 Tons, Numbered 2243 to 2342 to be lettered “Glencraig Colliery”
22/08/1900 100 Built, 10 Tons, Numbered 2347 to 2446
27/02/1901 100 Built, 10 Tons, Numbered 2447 to 2546
The Number of the Wagon in the photograph ties up with the date 01/06/1900 (No. 2329).
The Livery for all above wagons is “Bright Brown Oxide” and all were registered with the Caledonian Railway.
One interesting note regarding the Order of 01/06/1900 is that it was recorded that they were to be delivered to “East Parkhead Colliery, Bellshill” presumably for loading Coal for onward shipping, which was not unusual as Coal Merchants would rather have full wagons delivered than receive empty ones.
The Colliery at Bellshill being fairly close to the RY Pickering Works, in Wishaw.

A couple of people have been counting planks on the RY Pickering prototype wagon photos and our model pattern. Courtesy of Mike Williams I have attached 3 photos of RYP wagons with 5 planks. David Blevins kindly provided details of these from the RYP order books.

Photo 1 – “Hamilton Palace Colliery”

01/08/1898 – J.S. DIXON BENT COLLIERY, LTD., GLASGOW ordered 10 Wagons to be Built, 10 Tons, Nos. 201 to 210, painted Brown Oxide with White letters shaded Red. To have “JSD” Monogram on door, and “HAMILTON PALACE COLLIERY” on top plank. Registered with the Caledonian Railway Company.

Photo 2 – “Oakbank Oil Co.”

18/06/1900 – OAKBANK OIL Co. Ltd., GLASGOW ordered 50 Wagons to be Built, 10 Tons, Numbered 100 & upwards, Painted Grey with Black ironwork. Registered with the Caledonian Railway Co.

Photo 3 – “Wilson & Clyde Coal Coy., Ltd.”

25/10/1904 – WILSON & CLYDE COAL, COY., LTD., HAMILTON COLLIERIES ordered 50 Wagons to be Built, 12 Tons, Numbered 451 To 500, Painted Brown Oxide with 2 coats of Black Inside.
Registered with the Caledonian Railway Company.

The Wilsons and Clyde wagon is obviously one of the later vehicles referred to in Dave Blevin's notes. These were 16’ 6” long rather than 16’ for our resin casting but who’s measuring inches in 4mm?

Tony B
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Sinclair
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Notes for RY Pickering Traders Wagon

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MIKEWILLIAMS wrote:Are attached - I've assumed that readers possess a reasonable level of skill.. If anyone has queries or comments, please send me a pm.

Best

Mike
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